We jump RIGHT in here - no introductions, no ceremony. Imagine you’re eavesdropping in on a *really* juicy conversation at the next table 😄.
This was such a touching, vulnerable conversation with Kathy Bell - Breathwork Healer, Spiritual Mentor & Soul Connection Guide.
We go really deep into childhood numbness and emotional challenges due to sensitivity, what it means to be a “sensitive” person, and how we can learn to heal the misfit/‘difficult’ label through re-mothering ourselves. If you were ever at a loss to understand your own or others’ sensitivity we cover myriad examples, including but not limited to, the challenge of ‘worthiness’, being a sponge to our family’s energies, being labelled ‘inconsistent’ in business, reclaiming our cycles and natural rhythms, stepping into ‘selfishness’ and energetic sovereignty, and so much more.
This is truly one for all the misfits, rebels, those who have never felt “good enough” and anyone who has felt they needed to numb or ‘normalise’ their emotions to fit into our world’s systems, structures and expectations.
Check out the timestamps below for teasers!
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00:25 What were Kathy’s big dreams as a girl, and what happened to them?
“There’s a lot when it comes to childhood stuff, and I think for so many of us it’s still very raw”
Lack of joy and shutting down emotionally as a child
03:15 Childhood depression and what it revealed to her
“I was very sensitive, quite lonely - but I loved dolphins, art and nature”
The adult pressure of finding joy in our younger selves
06:50 The problem with snapshot memories and what’s often beneath them
Not feeling worthy or “good enough” at 4 years old
How we try and control our emotions through our environment, and learn this from an early age
09:30 Visions and dreams, and wanting to be a marine biologist
How we learn from a young age to limit our dreams
11:00 How do you explain what you do now?
“It’s the most awkward question you could ask me!”
On fitting your soul work into bureaucratic, system-driven boxes
12:40 How our soul work evolves and changes
“A lot of it is just, I show up as myself”
Being a way-shower and sharing our own learning
16:35 The huge gap between wearing a badge / costume and showing up as our full selves
“It is actually so frigging hard to share your vulnerabilities in the way that you’re called to”
On dealing with being “inconsistent” in traditional business expectations
20:35 On being a perpetual misfit and “changing our minds”
“Change is just following the call of the soul, following the call of the heart”
What happens when we try to force ourselves back to something we’ve evolved through already
22:20 What it feels like to expand our own energies
“What a different place the world would be if you weren’t doing that”
But how do we get out of our own way?
28:05 On stepping into “selfishness”
“I’d held and done and sacrificed so much, I was coming from a place of ‘I really fucking deserve this’”
“I want to be able to control my own happiness”
30:00 How Kathy learned to process the judgement of self-indulgence
“I did have to get over, and get around, and work through, and learn to love the self-indulgent piece”
How we work through societal-imposed perceived restrictions on time, space and resources
34:10 Sensitivity and our soul-expansion
What happens to you physically when you fail to follow your soul-nudges?
“My body is my barometer of happiness”
39:15 Self-sabotage and getting sick
“If something is not going right, I feel it in my body straight away”
Energetic differences between the right and left side of the body
41:35 Being a really sensitive child and how it creates our adulthood reality
“Through childhood, I continued to be the sponge of emotional charge within the family”
Kathy’s book, “The Sensitive Subject: A Parents Guide to Understanding Their Sensitive Child”
45:35 How having children helps us to understand and acknowledge our own “sensitive” traits
“When I felt like her as a child it was more like, ‘what’s wrong with me?’”
Internalising the unknown as a judgement that something is wrong with us
48:45 What does sensitivity mean for us, for our children, and for humanity now?
“Yes I’m sensitive but I know how to take care of myself. I’m energetically sovereign.”
What does ‘energetic sovereignty’ even look like? (Do you STILL carry crystals in your bra?!)
50:04 Beyond victimhood: sensitivity as a gift
“Sensitivity is now my gift. It allows me to hold space. It allows me to really feel and tune into emotions”
Depression as a narrowed range of emotions and suppressing our sensitivity
54:30 What numbing out really means, and why it’s not a solution
How does it feel to actually sit with and IN our emotions, whatever those are?
On learning not to avoid, suppress or identify with our emotions
57:30 How do we unravel “I’m not good enough”?
Learning to surrender to all the messy, “ugly”, shadow stuff
“We allow autumn to happen. We allow nature to be messy and muddy and murky.”
58:45 Allowing our cycles and understanding that death MUST happen
“If we can… bring the love and affection and reverence that we have for outer nature to our inner nature, we create this beautiful cycle of acceptance”
Blanding, averaging and normalising in order to maintain the status quo
61:45 When will we move beyond the industrial revolution?
“The world is going to need us”
The need for human empathy, intuition, holding space and reading the energies and subtle differences within a roomful of people
You can connect with Kathy here:
https://www.kathybell.uk
https://www.instagram.com/kathy.bell_/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/166772885032016
Kathy’s book, The Sensitive Subject: https://amzn.to/3vb8ib
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